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Post 1 made on Thursday January 8, 2009 at 07:48
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sydinstaller
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Hi guys,

I have some IR codes for a Lifesize system.

I have never seen these types of codes before.
If needed I can send the PDF file, sorry this posting is poorly laid out.

Following is the structure of the LifeSize Remote code:
Data Item Time (in seconds)
Sync. Pulse on time 2.6 ms
Sync. Pulse off time 2.6 ms
Data on time (0) 1.16 ms
Data off time (0) 1.16 ms
Data on time (1) 1.16 ms
Data off time (1) 2.89 ms
Data period (0) 2.32 ms
Data period (1) 4.05 ms
Stop bit 1.16 ms
Gap time 57.8 ms
Carrier Frequency: 455kHz

2006 LifeSize Communications. All rights reserved. 2
LifeSize Remote Key Assignment
Following are the key assignments:
Command Data Command Label
D5 D4 D3 D2 D1 D0
0 0 0 1 0 1 - up
0 0 0 1 1 0 - down
0 0 0 1 1 1 - ok
0 0 1 0 0 1 - left
0 0 1 0 1 0 - right
1 1 0 0 0 0 - 0
1 1 0 0 0 1 - 1
1 1 0 0 1 0 - 2
1 1 0 0 1 1 - 3
1 1 0 1 0 0 - 4
1 1 1 0 1 0 - Mute
1 1 1 0 1 1 - volume +
1 1 1 1 0 0 - volume -
0 1 0 1 1 0 - REMOTE ON (BATTERY GOOD)
0 1 0 1 1 1 - REMOTE ON (LOW BATTERY)
0 1 1 0 0 0 - REMOTE OFF

System Code = 10011001
Parity Bit: even and include toggle bit


Please note the very high freq 455khz. Like a B&O system I think.
I have looked through all my documents but can't work out how to correctly convert these to pronto style hex.

Thanks

Dan.
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Post 2 made on Thursday January 8, 2009 at 08:54
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johnsfine
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I'm not sure how well Pronto's do transmitting 455KHz, but it's at least worth trying.

The info you posted is missing a few important details.

If you don't have a URL for the pdf file, email the whole pdf to me. Hopefully it includes the missing details.
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Post 3 made on Thursday January 8, 2009 at 14:46
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sydinstaller
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Hi John,

Thanks.

You have mail.

D
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Post 4 made on Thursday January 8, 2009 at 15:34
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Not yet I don't.

I just double checked the email address in my profile and it is correct. I don't think verizon.net is blocking emails with pdf attachments. So more likely the problem is on your end.
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Post 5 made on Thursday January 8, 2009 at 16:25
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Hmmm.

Re-sent via hotmail.

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Post 6 made on Thursday January 8, 2009 at 21:07
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I got the file. It really is missing the info I hoped you had just neglected to include in your post.

It may take a few guesses to find the missing info. I assume you can test Pronto Hex strings that might operate that device. I'll try to find time tomorrow to make some.
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Post 7 made on Thursday January 8, 2009 at 23:01
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Thanks,

What details do you need. The manufacture may be able to advise me.

Dan.
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Post 8 made on Friday January 9, 2009 at 09:39
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What I need is the structure of the signal. That pdf gives details on the parts of the signal, but not the overall structure.

I assume the overall structure has a "lead in", a series of bits, and a "lead out".

The pdf documents the "lead in" (2.6 ms on, 2.5 ms off) and the "lead out" (1.16 ms on, 57.8 ms off).

It documents the timing of each individual bit. It documents the values of 16 bits (8 system bits, 6 data bits, 1 toggle bit and one parity bit). It doesn't document the meaning of the toggle bit, but I assume it is the typical meaning of toggle bit (the bit must change in order to send the same command twice in a row).

But it doesn't document the sequence of bits. I would guess the system bits are first, followed by data, followed by toggle, followed by parity. But that is just guessing.

The format of the documentation hints that the data bits are sent with D5 first and D0 last. But that isn't explicitly said.

The fact that 16 bits are described hints that only 16 are sent, but I've seen other manufacturer documentation that skips header bits.

Another possible interpretation of the document is that only 8 bits are sent per packet with alternating packets of system code and data.
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Post 9 made on Friday January 9, 2009 at 14:36
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I tried the most likely guesses for everything and used this .irp file

Device=153
Function=0..127
Frequency=455000
Zero=1160,-1160
One=1160,-2189
First Bit=MSB
Define G=F^D
Define H=(G::4)^G
Define I=(H::2)^H
Define C=(I::1)^I
Form=;2600,-2600,D:8,F:7,C:1,1160,-57800

That includes the two different toggle versions of each command (assuming that is what "toggle" means). So if I understand it correctly, either version of each command should work the first time, but if you need to give the same command twice in a row, the second one must be different from the first.

0 0 0 1 0 1 - up
Device Code: 153 Function: 10
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 67FD
Device Code: 153 Function: 11
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 67FD

0 0 0 1 1 0 - down
Device Code: 153 Function: 12
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 67FD
Device Code: 153 Function: 13
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 67FD

0 0 0 1 1 1 - ok
Device Code: 153 Function: 14
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 67FD
Device Code: 153 Function: 15
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 67FD

0 0 1 0 0 1 - left
Device Code: 153 Function: 18
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 67FD
Device Code: 153 Function: 19
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 67FD

0 0 1 0 1 0 - right
Device Code: 153 Function: 20
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 67FD
Device Code: 153 Function: 21
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 67FD

1 1 0 0 0 0 - 0
Device Code: 153 Function: 96
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 67FD
Device Code: 153 Function: 97
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 67FD

1 1 0 0 0 1 - 1
Device Code: 153 Function: 98
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 67FD
Device Code: 153 Function: 99
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 67FD

1 1 0 0 1 0 - 2
Device Code: 153 Function: 100
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 67FD
Device Code: 153 Function: 101
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 67FD

1 1 0 0 1 1 - 3
Device Code: 153 Function: 102
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 67FD
Device Code: 153 Function: 103
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 67FD

1 1 0 1 0 0 - 4
Device Code: 153 Function: 104
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 67FD
Device Code: 153 Function: 105
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 67FD

1 1 1 0 1 0 - Mute
Device Code: 153 Function: 116
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 67FD
Device Code: 153 Function: 117
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 67FD

1 1 1 0 1 1 - volume +
Device Code: 153 Function: 118
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 67FD
Device Code: 153 Function: 119
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 67FD

1 1 1 1 0 0 - volume -
Device Code: 153 Function: 120
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 67FD
Device Code: 153 Function: 121
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 67FD

0 1 0 1 1 0 - REMOTE ON (BATTERY GOOD)
Device Code: 153 Function: 44
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 67FD
Device Code: 153 Function: 45
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 67FD

0 1 0 1 1 1 - REMOTE ON (LOW BATTERY)
Device Code: 153 Function: 46
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 67FD
Device Code: 153 Function: 47
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 67FD

0 1 1 0 0 0 - REMOTE OFF
Device Code: 153 Function: 48
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 67FD
Device Code: 153 Function: 49
0000 0009 0000 0012 04AD 04AE 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 0217 0216 03F0 0216 03F0 0216 67FD

If none of those do anything, I'll need to get more imaginative.

But if some of them do the wrong things and you can give me details, I can correct any wrong assumptions I made.
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Post 10 made on Friday January 9, 2009 at 16:47
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Hi John,

Thank you so much.

Looking at the raw data and then the IRP file makes the IRP file make a little more sense.

I will try these on Monday when im back at work.

Thanks again.

Dan.
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Post 11 made on Tuesday January 13, 2009 at 02:52
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Hi,

Ok so im a little annoyed with this company.

Aparently the codes they sent me are for the old version of the current product (same model number).

My version uses 38KHz codes.

Sorry for waisting your time John.

I have to wait until they find the new codes!

D.
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